Sunday, September 20, 2009

A Taliban of our very own-2

"A Taliban of our very own"This article was chilling enough but even more chilling was the rejoinder from a "Mr. Arvind" who had the temerity to defend the murderous actions of the Khap Panchayat.

He seemed confused also because on one side he terms the article as a "bundle of lies" but at the same time justifies the heinous actions & decrees, reminiscent of the Mullah's 'Fatwa' , of the Khap Panchyat.

Arvind’s comment : In my write-up I gave some facts to justify why I’m calling this article “ bundle of lies” .Did you refuted any of my points , on funny comments by some Ranbir singh , and rational behind the unacceptability of intra gotra marriage in clan system ?

I focused on core issue , “Same gotra marriage” , not wanted to mix with other issues because while the “Same Gotra Marriage “ has greater significance in our life and observed by entire community as well as has historical and scientific significance . While other issues in article are subjective in nature , not necessary entire community have the same belief on that . So I tried to put forward our opinion on that and tried to explain the rational so that outsider can have the insider’s point of view before jumping to conclusion.

So , did I justify Gender bias and abortion of female foetuses in my write –up , No. This is social evil and not limited to any social and geographical cluster bur present across india.

But it seems you have decided to not to take cognizance of other’s view on core issue and happy to live in prejudice , and recently watching a lot of news related to afpak because you are using the terms like Mullah ,Fatwa..etc freely.


He says they're keeping the 2000year old bloodline of the Jats clean & pure but I ask you, Mr. Arvind, why should a 'blood-thirsty" bloodline of these Stone-Age Jats be allowed to even exist leave alone function in this horrible and brutal manner.

Arvind’s comment : A set of rules, regulations (known as constitution) are required to function a society, nation , state. This indo Aryan race(nation) also has it’s time tested rules and regulations like “ unacceptability of intra gotra marriage” , and penalty for those who don’t follow the constitution of the nation .Major offender will be penalized majorly .If some one get penalized because not observing the constitution of State , would you call it “blood-thirsty” State ,probably not , because this is punishment from state.

Here constitution of our nation don’t see eye to eye with the constitution of State on “Same Gotra marriage” , because State looking at it from Hindu Marriage Act , which doesn’t support our tradition . So HMA should take count of our custom Or consider us Indo-Aryan not Hindu , to avoid the conflict between constitution of nation and state.

Just to correct you it’s not 2000 , it’s 2000 BC.

Renowned DNA scientist James D Watson , endorse the view point of avoiding marriages in the bloodline as it’s reduce the genetic diseases. Our forefathers were aware of this fact much earlier.

BBC reported high number of birth related diseases in Muslim community in UK because of marriages in family.

Another BBC report suggest high number of microcephalics-babies born in Pakistan because of genetic diseases , also linked to marriages in bloodline.

Back home , Parsi are struggling with various genetic diseases and low potency and community has reached a level of wiped out from with in.

As per James D Watson , homosexuality too is a genetic disorder , as well as 70 % of eunuchs are from a religion which is 20 % in population .

Now , you judge yourself that this tradition of avoiding intra Gotra marriage helping the race to keep all these genetic diseases at bay. This is a gift of our forefather to us. This is why this community is able to produce people of sound body , soul and mind. Just find out the players who shined at Olympic 2008 belongs to which race , you will find the answer.

So this is a concept of “rocket age” , now I help you what exactly comes under “stone age”

- Brahmin literature endorse and promote “Sati” system , even make temple at Sati site. Aryans believe in Vedas and observe widow marriage
- Visit widow ashrams of Mathura , Virandavan , Benaras and see the state of these young widows victim of brahmin orthodoxy and rampant physical abuse.
- Glorifying “Stones” and worshiping them and creating Purans under the false names , to kill scientific approach of whole population and exploit the ignorance of people and pushing them into severe ignorance.
- System of “Devdasi “ , for the physical pleasure of temple priest and his masters..
- Created gods in all shape and size , 33 crore if not wrong , and exploit the poor people from birth to death in the name of rituals.
- Depriving more than 80 % of country’s population ( dalits and woman) from their basic human rights , temples on the pretext false Sastras.
These and so many such practices have reduced the term “Hindu” into laughing stock in the eye of other religion.

So , those who are responsible for all these evil to society from ages , and still promoting ,shouldn’t have the right to exist .Raise you voice these exploitation .Historically these Brahmin/puranic people did more harm than goods to everything under the sun in this country.

Who gives them the right, Mr Arvind, to cold-bloodedly mow down people, gang rape women & burn them alive, commit whole-sale female foeticide, etc...?

Arvind’s cooment : Do you have any evidence whether Khap Panchayat ordered gang rape women ,burn alive , female feticides etc. Don’t go by heresy or your assumption and tarnish the image of khaps. Even a matter related to yadav and other community you wrongfully attributed to Tevatia Khap.
Sinful act of clan marriage can destroy the social fabrics of gotra and village social system , So this race punish the offenders as per their constitution of nation .

You seem to be an educated man, Mr Arvind, but I think that education is only skin-deep because no-one in their right senses, can defend 'honor killings', extortation, public floggings, lynchings, banning music and cricket, etc.
Arvind’s comment: How can you justify the marriage between brother and sister ?. This is more than a crime , it’s sin .I have no objection if somebody practice this in their family as it’s none of my business , but we will not allow this in our family and that is our clan . Our elders decide on such matters , and suggest some corrective action , in some cases it may be capital punishment considering the enormity and to establish clear “NO” for such behavior. This is not “honor Killing” , this is punishment.

Khap panchayts are not every day affair , distributing floggings orders on day to day basis on drop of hat . Their decision and orders are on the important issues only and far more serious affair than you projected . Refrain from creating an afpak impression . I search google not an single incidence of flogging order from Khap found .

If People are banning DJ or Cricet , just because these activities don’t go well with village life . Cricket is much more expensive than Kabbadi , Kho-Kho , wrestling , Volleyball , football . In village life there is no weekends , they can’t afford there man spend whole day in front of TV , if getting addicted to this. You people really need to develop social sensibility for other community..

Why don't you make better use of your education, try and bring them into the mainstream, expose them to the liberlised world and maybe they just might, just might, see the error of their ways.

Arvind’s comment: What is your definition of mainstream ? . Tell me on which parameter you want to judge the mainstream , historically , economically , politically , socially …etc. Don’t worry about us , this is our family affair and we believe on our elders since ages . If you really want to liberalized some one , it is poor peole of this country under the glitches of ponga pandits , get them liberalized first.
We have liberalized ourselves long ago as being Aryan and believers in Vedas . This has put us at loggerhead with this Brahmin/puranic mindset. This rotten mentality who has lost all the self confidence and pride long before , as all the aura they created was baseless and has been marginalized politically and socially . Things has reached to a point where they are seeking patronage under “Sushri Mayavati” . So these people with bated breath awaiting to be in mainstream not us.

Our race supported every reformist movement ,whether it is Mahatma Buddha , Guru Nanak , Maharshi Dayanand Sarashwati ,to counter the evil influence of Brahmin orthodoxy and to purge over self , we are way ahead on that front , you just need to gain some more knowledge , Internet may be a great help to you.

Neha deserves a medal for venturing into that 'blood thirsty country' of 'Jahil Jats" and lifting the lid from their heinous crimes.

Arvind’s comment :Now , you are showing your true color , loosing all your decency out of frustration or you are at loss of words in front of small hint of our glorious tradition and history , forefathers of these Jahil jats saved your filthy forefathers from Alexander , Hun , Temur lang and row of Muslim rulers , if your filthy forefathers and you remained HINDU under delhi sultanate , credit goes to this Aryan race. Unfortunately , we are doing the same today , as this race is the largest ethnic group in Indian army today.

You even don’t have to go out of delhi to visit these so called ‘blood thirsty country’ , Delhi was founded by Dhillon jats , still today more than 110 jat villages are in delhi’s periphery .

Our generation has responsibility to take the pride of our community to next level and give fittest reply to Joseph Goebbels of these days, those misrepresent the facts.


Neha certainly deserve the medal , “Joseph Goebbels” medal for propaganda , this is not uncommon now , as media persons falling over each other to create mountain out of mole to win the eyeballs among cut throat competition .After all you need “Breaking News” every day to run your shop.

Had this been the case as suggested in article , community could have jettisoned the tradition of “unacceptability of intra gotra marriage” .

I hope you're listening Mr. Huda and will take some action tho' so far we've not heard anything much and Mr. Chidambaram, saying "we must hang our heads in shame" is just not enough, in-fact its an admission of your inability to take aaction.

Arvind’s comment : Only sensible action these politician can take , is to amend the Hindu marriage act , to accommodate the tradition of community . Any other action will be misadventure and this may lead us to clear disassociation from the term “Hindu” and even to seek for a separate homeland “ Arya Desh” to protect our traditions.


But I still have faith in our Judiciary and I sincerely hope that in the days to come we shall see the disbanding of the Khaps and the guilty brought to book.

Arvind’s comment : Sorry to say, but your dream will not come true . Hue and cry by city slickers and a section of media on a non issue , is not even in the category on any threat that Khaps have seen in the past. These Khap panchayat deserve a lot of respect as these helped this country to evolve into a republic . These are not difficult to understand but one has to be free from prejudice and ready to gain some understanding and develop social sensibilities.

(Body of email Correspondence )

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